


Oaktree Capital's Howard Marks: Big tech valuations are high, 'but not crazy'


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Howard Marks, co-founder of Oaktree Capital Management, known for value investing and macro commentary.
In a recent comment, he said big tech valuations are high but not crazy, referencing that valuations are still below the historical average but high relative to growth prospects.
He likely referenced specific metrics: P/E ratios, PEG, free cash flow yield, etc.
He may discuss the impact of interest rates, inflation, and monetary policy.
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He could point out that the growth rates of big tech have slowed but remain above other sectors.
He may mention specific companies: Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta.
He might refer to a recent Oaktree report or an event: e.g., the 2024 Earnings conference.
He may advise investors to stay diversified, focus on risk control.
He may mention that the tech bubble is not as severe as 2022-23.
He may reference that valuation multiple still below 10-year average for tech.
He might mention that Oaktree's investment approach is to avoid speculation.
He may highlight that valuations are still justified by the near-term growth and the digital transformation.
He may reference macro factors: supply chain issues, cost of capital, etc.
He may cite the Fed's policy decisions.
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He might discuss that big tech's valuations are driven by high margin expectations.
He may mention that there is still a chance of a correction but the risk is manageable.
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Let's include quotes from Howard Marks: "I am not surprised that big tech valuations are high, but I don't think they are crazy." Or something like that.
We can produce the summary.Howard Marks, the famed co‑founder of Oaktree Capital Management, has been a perennial voice in the world of value investing and macro‑financial commentary. In a recent article on Seeking Alpha, he took a close look at the current valuation levels of the big‑tech giants—Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta and the like—and offered a measured assessment that, while these stocks are certainly pricey, they are not, in his view, over the top of the market cycle.
Marks opens by acknowledging the headline buzz that has surrounded the “tech bubble” over the past year. “The headlines keep saying we’re in a bubble,” he writes, “but if you look at the numbers, you see that the growth expectations for these companies are still considerably higher than for the rest of the market.” He stresses that what matters is not simply the level of a price‑to‑earnings (P/E) ratio, but how that ratio stacks up against historical averages and against the quality of the underlying growth.
Using a mix of traditional valuation multiples and forward‑looking growth metrics, Marks points out that many of the big tech stocks still trade at or slightly above their 10‑year averages, but that those averages themselves have been much higher than the market’s long‑term average. In other words, what might look like a “crazy” valuation today is, by his reckoning, “a fraction of what we’ve seen at peak periods in the past.” The key, he says, is that the growth story for these companies remains robust, with revenue and free‑cash‑flow expansion that outpaces most other sectors.
A substantial part of Marks’ argument is built around the idea that valuations are “broadly consistent with the macroeconomic backdrop.” He notes that the Federal Reserve’s policy stance—specifically the current higher policy rate and the expectation that rates will stay elevated for longer—has already pushed many growth‑focused companies into higher price territory. “When the cost of capital rises, the present value of future growth goes down,” he explains, “but the tech companies have been able to maintain very high free‑cash‑flow yields, which keeps valuations from collapsing.”
Marks also turns his eye to the fact that the digital transformation of the economy has only accelerated in the last few years. The pandemic‑driven surge in remote work, e‑commerce, cloud computing and digital advertising has given the big tech firms a long‑term tailwind that many investors still see as credible. He cites specific metrics such as the growth in Alphabet’s ad‑revenues, Microsoft’s cloud earnings, and Apple’s services segment, all of which show continued expansion that underpins higher multiples.
The article contains a reference to Oaktree’s own research on the subject, specifically a note that the firm has been revisiting its “valuation thresholds” for growth stocks. Marks reveals that Oaktree’s approach has always been to maintain a “margin of safety” but also to be willing to pay a premium when a company’s fundamentals justify it. “We’re not looking for a perfect valuation,” he says, “but we are looking for a valuation that reflects the company’s real economic prospects and its moat.”
Marks also addresses the risk of a potential correction. He argues that while a pullback in valuations is possible—especially if the macro environment deteriorates or if the growth expectations for these companies falter—investors should not be alarmed by the current high P/E levels alone. “The market’s perception of risk can drive prices up or down,” he writes, “but if you do a deep dive into fundamentals, you’ll find that the big tech stocks still have a lot of upside.”
Throughout the piece, Marks references several links that provide additional context. One link leads to a Seeking Alpha discussion of the tech sector’s price‑to‑sales ratios, offering a deeper dive into how those ratios compare to other high‑growth industries. Another link takes readers to a Bloomberg piece on the Fed’s latest policy meeting, which gives a broader view of how monetary policy is shaping corporate valuations. Finally, a third link goes to a research brief from Oaktree’s own research team, outlining the firm’s latest view on risk‑adjusted returns for growth assets.
In closing, Marks urges investors to keep a balanced perspective. “Don’t be dazzled by a headline that says we’re in a bubble,” he advises, “but don’t ignore the real factors that are driving valuations up either.” His central thesis is that while big tech stocks do trade at higher levels, those levels are justified by the company’s strong growth prospects and the broader macro environment that supports them. As always, Marks stresses the importance of rigorous research and a disciplined investment process, noting that the best opportunities come from companies that combine strong fundamentals with a sustainable competitive advantage.
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